{"id":153367,"date":"2026-03-09T11:28:19","date_gmt":"2026-03-09T11:28:19","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/www.mauriziolacava.com\/?post_type=mlc-videos&#038;p=153367"},"modified":"2026-03-09T14:43:02","modified_gmt":"2026-03-09T14:43:02","slug":"podcast_cole-nussbaumer-kanflic","status":"publish","type":"mlc-videos","link":"https:\/\/www.mauriziolacava.com\/en\/mlc-videos\/podcast_cole-nussbaumer-kanflic\/","title":{"rendered":"Podcast_Cole Nussbaumer Kanflic"},"content":{"rendered":"\n<div class=\"wp-block-uagb-container uagb-block-eea8cafa alignwide uagb-is-root-container\">\n<div class=\"wp-block-uagb-container uagb-block-14372ab2\">\n<div class=\"wp-block-uagb-info-box uagb-block-665a095d uagb-infobox__content-wrap  uagb-infobox-icon-left-title uagb-infobox-left uagb-infobox-image-valign-middle\"><div class=\"uagb-ifb-content\"><div class=\"uagb-ifb-left-title-image\"><div class=\"uagb-ifb-image-content\"><img decoding=\"async\" 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